topic Re: Battery care questions. in XZ Series

Battery care

Steve1970 — Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:04:58 GMT

How long does it take for the 'battery care' feature to start kicking in? I have only had my XZ for just under a week, so is it a little too early?

Re: Battery care

Uliwooly — Sun, 16 Oct 2016 21:34:36 GMT

Do you have Stamina MODE enabled? I think a week should be enough but you might want to wait few more days.

Re: Battery care

Steve1970 — Sun, 16 Oct 2016 21:45:53 GMT

Hi uliwooly, no I do not. Okay, I'll give it a little longer. Loving the XZ. btw.

Re: Battery care

Uliwooly — Sun, 16 Oct 2016 21:50:37 GMT

That's great to hear it's an amazing phone.

Re: Battery care

CameronT — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 00:07:15 GMT

Hi @Steve1970,

About 1-2 weeks is right, but it will be more accurate if your schedule is quite consistent. So if you always plug it in at roughly the same times every day it will learn quicker than if you charge it sporadically.

Battery care does not work?

XuanTu — Sun, 11 Dec 2016 15:41:22 GMT

Hi, I bought my XZ more than 2 month. Usually charge my XZ from 22h30 and unplug at 6h30 but the battery care doesn't work.

I remember when I charged the 3rd time, battery care show up but I click on "changing the routime/the charge time (I don't remember exactly)", then each everytime I charge after that day, battery care not showing anymore.

Can anyone help me to find out what's happened?

If I continous charge XZ without battery care with my routine (22h30 - 6h30), will my battery be ok after all?

Thanks.

Re: Battery care does not work?

MarlonUk1 — Sun, 11 Dec 2016 17:00:13 GMT

The battery will charge normally even without the battery care activated, think of it of just an added benefit.

Try to let your device relearn your routine, deactivate and reactivate battery care and charge the device during specific time. From my experience it will only give around 30 mins to an hour from the specific time you charge it to activate the feature

Battery care questions.

xznewbie — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 08:54:53 GMT

Hello guys...I have a question.. About this adaptive charging facility in XZ... Supposing you had a routine of short charging..where you will remove it from AC source when its fully charged. Then suddenly after a few Months you changed your recharging routine where you will the xz tethered to the charging current overnight. Will it be still able to adapt to your altered charging routine..? Can these adaptive charging be sustainable with fickle charging process..?

Re: Battery care questions.

MarlonUk1 — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 09:13:21 GMT

the description in the battery care settings, is that it will only detect when you usually leave your device charging for hours. so it will not count small time charges like maybe less than 30minutes (just a guess)...

Re: Battery care questions.

xznewbie — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 09:19:49 GMT

Hmm.. So do you mean until I leave it in charging status for a long time..That it remains full for several hours before I pull it out from the AC socket..? Then that's the time adaptive charging facility kicks in..? It doesn't really matter then if you subject it to erratic recharging schedules as the battery is protected by a software..?

Re: Battery care questions.

MarlonUk1 — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 09:27:48 GMT

Im not sure I get what you mean.

Battery Care only detects regular long charges, yes, since battery care now knows your regular charging habits it will charge 0-90% normally and then proceeds to slowly charge 90- 100%.

I think you are thinking more of the Qnovo tech that is also available to the Xperia devices..

here's a video explaining about these tech..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvvjIMaGRYY

Re: Battery care questions.

xznewbie — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 09:33:35 GMT

Thanks for the explanation and the link.. But it does not exactly answers the question how long can the qnouvo adapt to the erratic recharging pattern( and still able to prolong the battery lifespan) that is often the staple of people that move a lot.

Re: Battery care questions.

MarlonUk1 — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 09:49:24 GMT

The qnovo doesn't need to be activated, it is built in the software and is always on. it is constantly monitoring the battery,

even you don't use battery care, ( I don't, owing to different times I charge the phone) the battery is still protected by Qnovo. Battery care can be deactivated and it isn't even availble in the US version of xZ,

Re: Battery care questions.

xznewbie — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 09:56:26 GMT

So we really need to observe the battery behavior and how the qnouvo manage it so we can make a fair judgment of its performance.. In passing I am not really happy with the xz battery performance. Even at stamina mode I can only manage 10 hours of use fully charge Xperia-XZ.
That is why I am keen to know how far can qnouvo protect the battery, as well as does it have an impact on the duration of the full charge than without it like the previous models of Xperias.

Re: Battery care questions.

MarlonUk1 — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:03:27 GMT

you can not really "observe" the effects of Qnovo and Battery Care on the short term, these are battery techs that protects the battery on the long term (months or years),

these tech influences that battery life span not the battery life per charge.

I agree I have an Xperia Z5 compact and I could stretch 1 full charge up to 2 days and a half with moderate use.

with XZ 1 day only, that is why Sony is wise not to advertise the XZ having 2 day battery life , but most people already associate sony flagship with long battery life. but sadly this time it is not.

Re: Battery care questions.

xznewbie — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:16:36 GMT

Precisely. How many hours can you squeeze from your XZ..? Because 1 day can be interpreted in two ways.. Dawn to dusk or it can be 24,hours..
I also observed my xz.. Even if I shut down the WiFi its in stamina mode,
,, reduce the brightness to near zero, I for example I leave it at 70%battery juice level. For the 8-10 hours it's final battery juice is just at 40-45.meaning while Idle its still consuming considerable battery juice.
From your experience is your XZ behaving similarly..?

Re: Battery care questions.

Sunking1011 — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:52:30 GMT

Mine loses 5-8% overnight whilst in airplane mode. The standby drain is lousy.

Re: Battery care questions.

xznewbie — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 11:02:53 GMT

Hmm.. I did not try that..airplane mode.. You give me an idea to try.. . Thanks..

Re: Battery care questions.

MarlonUk1 — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 12:17:14 GMT

Let say 7am 100% up to 12mn 15%

No mobile data
WiFi maybe for 8 hours. (browsing, YouTube, updates etc)
Minimal gaming
Lots of ebook reading (screen constantly on)

In my opinion if you are able to reach your house still with battery life after work, then that is good.

On the other hand if you drain your battery midday, it's either your are a heavy user or you have abnormal battery drain.

Re: Battery care questions.

xznewbie — Mon, 26 Dec 2016 12:25:19 GMT

Well mine as I move around,constantly mobile data the whole day.. Alternating betweenWCDMA and. LTE.checking mails and other communication s. With such kind of use battery life does not exceed 10 hours. Is that considered normal battery juice depletion for my case..?