topic Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera in Z Series

I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

GeoffH — Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:04:07 GMT

was out tonite with a few friends at a party and everybody was snapping photos and taking videos

I was aware of the colour saturation "issue" when taking photo's in pubs etc where coloured lights are being used (red in particular) I posted about this before.

The people I'm with are shooting away with varoius devices - samsung notes - HTC's - SS S111 etc, well I could not let any of them see any pictures or video that my EZ had taken -this is nothing to do with compression etc which we all know about

So I sat for about 45mins experimenting with different settings, ISO white balance HDR - absolutly nothing made any difference - the camera on this phone really needs attention, I'm not quite sure why it's so sensitive to coloured light especially at night but it is, so much so that out of 30 odd pictures I took - I only kept one of them as a sample to post here, you'll notice that objects that are close are not saturated because they are influenced by the flash but everything else in this shot are just saturated in a very unatural red - yes there is red background lighting at the location but not nearly as strong as this picture would have you believe - and this shot is one of the better ones

If Sony doesn't fix this very poor camera deployment then some cleaver dev on XDA will port the camera driver from a Samsung 4 and I'll be first in line to install it, here is a sample picture showing the way over colour saturated night shot garbage that this flagship phone cannot take

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

Rickard — Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:02:54 GMT

Thanks for the feedback and example!

We have received some feedback regarding this and other things in the camera and this has been escalated.

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

ita — Thu, 18 Apr 2013 17:37:14 GMT

Sony, what about an Excuse about this Problem with all your SONY Fans
You can post something about this Problem on the Sonyblog Website so your Sony Fans will see that Sony knows about this Problem and is trying to optimize the Camera

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

KiranPasupuleti — Fri, 19 Apr 2013 06:18:04 GMT

It would be really great it the problem can be rectified. This is the only feature that seems to be the biggest flaw in the Z. I find my Xperia Z to be perfect in every other aspect.

I think this particular problem seems to be hurting the brand image of Z more than anything. Also, customers of expensive phones love it when the company responds to their requests with the right action.

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

sauravxperia — Fri, 19 Apr 2013 06:26:42 GMT

sony is using over compression in thier photos, which is leadiing to greater noise. samsung also uses same sensor of sony and make phtotos of approx. 5 mb , where as sony make approx 2.8 mb. please sony we don't want small size, we want quality photos. http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/18/camera-shootout-xperia-z-goes-up-against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

Hokkeltokkel — Fri, 19 Apr 2013 09:45:33 GMT

The Camera so far might be fine BUT the Software is awkward. The compression is freaking me out. I'll be able to get 7MB Pictures with 3rd Party Camera Apps like Camera360 with a slight better quality but with that Standard Camera App pics are way too high compressed. For a 600€+ Smartphone we all deserve better then this.

Take the comparisement at XperiaBlog the XperiaZ is the worst of all Cameras. Especially if you know that the S4 uses the same Sensor but the Pictures look so much better.

Please Sony do something and against your previous behaviour to the Camera on ALL your Smartphones give us a Firmware Update for the Camera. That's the least what you could do.

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

Lucas17 — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 18:22:49 GMT

Please Sony, do an update of the camera. The camera of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 makes much better pictures. Sony is a great brand and I'm very satisfied with the Xperia Z, but the camera I'm so disappointed of you! I thought Sony is better than Samsung, especially in Camera, because of the Cybershot-products. Please,please, please Sony update the camera and the Xperia Z is the perfect smartphone!

(Sorry for my bad english, it isn't my mother tongue)

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

propov — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:21:48 GMT

Galaxy S2,S3.Note,Note2....all they use SONY camera hardware.All they take good pictures in low light conditions.Xperia Arc was awesome,Xperia S was tragedy,Xperia V is awesome,Xepria Z is tragedy...Whats that?Do you make good or bad cameras.What must we expected?

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

Lucas17 — Tue, 07 May 2013 13:19:02 GMT

Sony, what about an answer?

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

GeoffH — Tue, 07 May 2013 14:00:52 GMT

it is also too sensitive to red in low light shots

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

GShepherd — Thu, 06 Jun 2013 10:48:55 GMT

I have to agree. The image quality is poor and could be improved substantially by simply setting the jpeg quality factor to 100%. File size is a complete non-issue these days with high capacity memory cards, fast uploads and cloud backup such as Dropbox.
Sony has insulted its customers by the big marketing claim for 13Mpx camera and then unilaterally taking the control out of its users' hands.
Please fix this in the next software release.

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

GeoffH — Thu, 06 Jun 2013 11:02:32 GMT

the only problem I see with your suggestion/comment is that file size may be an issue when it comes to camera speed when using settings like HDR - multi shoot - anti shake etc so I don't think you'll ever get all out raw shooting but certaintly I think improvements can be made, will they spend any more time developing the camera ? that remains to be seen

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

wanagung — Thu, 06 Jun 2013 11:39:11 GMT

helloooo SONY fanboy:smileysilly: Come on maaann.. don't sit there asking and beging for their attention and action like a foool!:smileycool: Coz, during my observe in this discussion forum, you guys has BIG hope for sony to repair their issue, software, firmware, assware... ETC. and they (SONY) will do NOTHING.

If you know they'll do nothing, why still complaining and put a BIG hope to SONY?

MOVE your butt guyss! I've been waiting too long for their response. And I am getting tired. now my life is soo complete with my white angel S4:smileylove:. it has better camera quality, sharper, and of course a lot of new features that the other doesn't have. SONY is STILL SONY. They will do something better after the other do something best.:smileygrin:

will miss u guys in this forum. hahahahahah!:smileycool:

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

GShepherd — Thu, 06 Jun 2013 11:48:46 GMT

At 100% jpeg quality the file size is only going to be about 6.5MB. High speed SD cards can be obtained very cheaply and are necessary for full hd video anyway. User choice would be obvious but an immediate fix would be 100% jpeg quality or, if they absolutely must deny us full quality, 90%, which would achieve a significantly smaller file size and almost invisible jpeg artifacts.

I have had 6 Sony digital cameras in my time (which shows that they must have something going for them) and their most persistent jpeg problem is over-processing and over-saturated reds. This uncalled for jpeg compression is really stretching the friendship.

I have just taken some rather tricky photos with this xperia z and I think that the camera is basically quite good. Sony should just let it do its best instead of strangling it.

Re: I'm not one to complain but I feel I need too - Camera

Showmik — Sat, 20 Jul 2013 23:09:05 GMT

All they say is it has been escalated, when will you get it SONY , you brand a phone with the so called EXMOR RS sensor to be one of the best shooters in low light, but what you give in return images full of noise in lowlight, the colours are way off sometimes, indoor photos suck .

Low light capabality my ass

Please redo the camera processing alogorithms and give this phone the Pride it deserves .