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Having got so fed up with the wrong titles on the HDD recordings, with no expectation of a fix from Sony, I've tried to see what I can do to rename the recorded titles.
I've been using a WD Essentials 300Mb drive for recording. The Bravia TV has formattted it into a number of partitions and volumes, not recognised by Windows, but readable in Linux.
As you'd expect, the largest partition has the actual recordings in a "stream" folder. But in 2 other partitions, there's a "db" folder with a file "0001.db" - which is a SQLite database. These 2 copies appear to be identical.
The database is a pretty straightforward list of the recordings with - hurrah! - a "title" column.
So all you have to do to correct the recording titles is:
1. Get hold of a Linux system with SQLite database browser.
2. Edit the titles in each copy of the database.
What could be simpler? (well, a Rename option in Title List?)
PS. No sign of the Recording Results list...
Hi,
im sure that for those with linux systems this would be very useful, however for the vast majority of average joes on here with this issue this would be as much use as a chocolate tea pot.
i blame Sony for not being clear regarding the use of HDD's on their tv's in the first place.
I blame Sony for a total disinterest in making their products work properly. Clearly, their R&D efforts are all focussed on their revenue streams - getting new products ready for sale. They won't be selling them to me, though. I've had it with Sony.
Message was edited by: mijewen
I also have been very dissatisfied by Sony's attitude to customer relations. I have a Bravia TV which has a generic code problem when using the Record function with a hard disk - it records the programs OK, but on the list of recorded programs, many of them have the title of the program before. In fact, if the previous program has a few seconds to run when the recording starts, then it picks up the title of that one. The problem is a bit bigger than that, but I won't bore you with the details.
I initially contacted Support about it about two years ago, and have kept up the correspondence tenaciously ever since. I even posted a YouTube clip of the issue, hoping to shame them into doing something about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8pIACClwGk
A concerted lobby from dissatisfied customers might have got things moving a bit quicker, but my last communication was ...
"In response to your query, I have passed your case to the senior who was dealing with the query in order to resolve the issue for you. You will be contacted as soon as an outcome has been released."
... so maybe - just maybe, something will happen - there may be a code update - but it has taken two years to get this far, so don't hold your breath........
It seems to me that the bottom layer of support, who interface with the customer, are terrified by the prospect of escalating to the layer above them.
Thanks for the information. I had not realised that the files on the partitions were from an SQL database.
I am making this post to this thread two years after the thread was started and while I appreciate that using linux to hack around a consumer products failure is a problem, many people will be able to download and run versions of Linux such as Fedora from a CD or USB stick and be able to fix the naming issue without having to install Linux on thier computer's hard disk.
I have a further question. Is there a program for Linux that will allow the watching of the programmes recorded on the Sony disk?
For those interested the rest of this post is information about the partitions on the Sony disk.
I have a computer with an old version of Fedora on it (a Redhat build of Linux) it can and does mount the partitions automatically.
I have a one terabyte drive is split into multiple partitions the first few of which were not accessible.
Here is the same information using a program called parted
# parted /dev/sdc
GNU Parted 1.8.8
Using /dev/sdc
Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
(parted) print
Model: TOSHIBA External USB 3.0 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdc: 1000GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 6423kB 12.8MB 6423kB primary
2 19.3MB 25.7MB 6423kB primary
3 32.1MB 135MB 103MB primary
4 141MB 1000GB 1000GB extended
5 148MB 250MB 103MB logical
6 257MB 525GB 524GB logical
7 525GB 1000GB 476GB logical
(parted) quit
As can be seen below 4 of them are auto-mounted on my Fedora linux box as vfat (windows 95 compatible format): partitions 3, 5, 6, and 7
4 partitions All the files are of type binary (ie that are not text files)
#mount -l
...
/dev/sdc3 on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500)
/dev/sdc6 on /media/disk-1 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500)
/dev/sdc5 on /media/disk-2 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500)
/dev/sdc7 on /media/disk-3 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500)
disk
total 512
drwxrwxrwx 2 jsb root 524288 2000-01-01 02:16 db/
total 2560
-rwxr-xr-x 1 john root 73728 2000-01-01 02:16 0001.db
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jbs root 20 2000-01-01 00:45 0001.enc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jsb root 3000 2000-01-01 00:45 0001.sdt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jsb root 20 2000-01-01 00:06 ver.enc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jsb root 5 2000-01-01 00:06 version
disk-1 [NB 1749639168 is about 1.7 GB]
drwxrwxrwx 2 jsb root 524288 2000-01-01 00:45 stream/
total 410657280
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jsb root 1749639168 2000-01-01 04:14 01000000.00
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jsb root 2455154688 2000-01-01 08:03 01000001.00
...
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jsb root 1694945280 2000-01-01 04:46 0100012f.00
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jsb root 2408964096 2000-01-01 06:04 01000130.00
disk-2
drwxrwxrwx 2 jsb root 524288 2000-01-01 00:08 db/
total 1536
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jsb root 73728 2000-01-01 02:16 0001.db
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jsb root 20 2000-01-01 02:16 0001.enc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jsb root 3000 2000-01-01 02:16 0001.sdt
disk-3
total 512
drwxrwxrwx 2 jsb root 524288 2000-01-01 00:06 stream/
total 0
My understanding is that regardless of the partition and filesystem types, the main problem is that the video files are either encrypted, or in some non-standard format. This is what I gather from reading around, but I wonder if open air broadcast channels are subjected to the same limitations.
Myself, I've never tried to record anything, so no first hand experience.
What sort of broadcast did you try to record?
As a rule of thumb, ANY equipment that can record from a HD tuner in the UK must comply with the DBook standard and enforce encryption on the recorded content. This is mandatory.
It is not mandatory to encrypt SD broadcasts, however many manufactureres (including Sony) encrypt both SD and HD content by default.
I might check eventually how it behaves here (SD, and not the UK variant of the firmware).
I could be wrong here, but I dont think the encryption is FW (software) based, I believe the encryption/decryption is hardware based, and hence the reason why your TV recordings will not work on another Sony TV - even the same model.
I once tried this with my PVR recorder (SVR-HDT500b) from mine, to my mothers. We both have the same model, and transferring recordings failed. I believe TVs are the same.